Chinese men has no ------Drinking manners

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Comment by Den But on August 20, 2012 at 7:12pm

Yes the peer pressure of drinking with strangers is sometimes an insult..And If we kindly say no, they get rude and even fight..I ve been there and done that..N thanks to warm beer and cold manners..

Comment by KēYánRénYuán on August 17, 2012 at 3:35pm

@Tom. Well said. The moment one decides to say no to situations they feel uncomfortable in and do something about it (i.e. refuse), the sooner they get what they want rather than what they deserve.

Comment by Ian Feng-Anderson on August 17, 2012 at 3:34pm

"And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto Him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto Him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the Law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest Thou?"

"This they said, tempting Him, that they might have to accuse Him."

"But Jesus stooped down, and with His finger wrote on the ground, as though He heard them not. So when they continued asking Him, He lifted up Himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again He stooped down, and wrote on the ground."

"And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst."

"When Jesus had lifted up Himself, and saw none but the woman, He said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? Hath no man condemned thee?"

"She said, No man, Lord."

"And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." 

"The good westerners are all church go-ers. If not, they are the sleep around, sleaze it up, party and womanize (they are their own God) kind of people."

and why do women expect non-Christian men to serve anything but themselves? Western men are sick and tired of playing this usury game, and that's one of the reasons why the majority of them are disrespectful of women and are usually all self-serving womanizers. 

 

Every man, woman and children is capable of great evil as well as great good. Not all church goers are good people and not all non- church goers are sinners. 

I am a christian and live my life with christian values, but i do not attend church, and i do not sleep around, sleaze it up, party and womanize (they are their own God) kind of people.

Jesus said, "It is I who am the light which is above them all. It is I who am the All. From Me did 
the All come forth, and unto Me did the All extend. Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find Me there."

Are you only classed as a good person if you attend church?

If you dont attend church are you automatically a sinner?

Comment by Seán on August 17, 2012 at 2:41pm

Reminds me of the story of the 21 year old girl in Zhujiang recently. She met a guy via Weixin or one of these social networking tools. She hooked up with a guy she'd never met before and his 5 mates at a KTV in a hotel. They went through about 6 bottles of Chivas, all the time asking her to ganbei. She was found dead the next morning in the hotel room with the guy.

Only heard the story 2nd hand, but that was the jist of it. Sadness personified.....

Comment by Tony Bailey on August 17, 2012 at 2:11pm

+1 Jenny!

 

"The good westerners are all church go-ers. If not, they are the sleep around, sleaze it up, party and womanize (they are their own God) kind of people."

Sounds like most of the Catholic men in my hometown.......go to mass on Sunday morning, confess their sins to the holy father and then go and get pissed in the pub while their wives go home and cook the sunday dinner.......and don't get me started on their child-abusing priests!

Back on subject........in general western men don't sit there at dinners forcing everyone else at the table to Ganbei Bai jiu....i've been in the situation too many times where I've been pushed to Ganbei with multiple people...I learnt over the years to turn it round and pick on the one who went red-faced first! I just say no now as I don't care about "face".

Comment by tom on August 17, 2012 at 1:30pm

say no. 

get up and leave

problem solved.

in the end it is that easy.

Comment by Jenny Wanderlust on August 17, 2012 at 1:17pm

Sorry to read about your incidents. I'm glad I work for a foreign company without these drinking games, and I only drink for enjoyment.

"If a man wants to find a wife ...he will go to church."

A man also goes to church to find kids to molest.

Comment by Kris on August 17, 2012 at 11:11am

"The good westerners are all church go-ers. If not, they are the sleep around, sleaze it up, party and womanize (they are their own God) kind of people."

So the only good people are Church goers?

Comment by B Thomas on August 17, 2012 at 10:56am

further: I mean really, when is the last time you ever heard about a woman being romantic? have you ever? Do you know any movies about it? stories? books? any famous statements? I sure have never seen one. Not to bash but....why are women complaining so much about getting something they don't believe in giving and have a gender-cultural tradition and value of not giving? Why do women expect men to be servants or robots? and why do women expect non-Christian men to serve anything but themselves? Western men are sick and tired of playing this usury game, and that's one of the reasons why the majority of them are disrespectful of women and are usually all self-serving womanizers. How completely mind-boggling and shocking is it to see a seemingly intelligent human (woman) complain about such a thing when its just so damn obvious. Wow, you have got to be freaking kidding me.

Western men often pay a lot of money to take courses about how to womanize and not be the nice guy and fall into the "friend zone" because women just don't like nice, honorable gentlemen, and so many are using men. So they pay to get coaching so they will not be used, and so they will not be shunned by women for being a gentleman. If you have ever seen a dating site advertisement in the west, it is always followed by advertisement for these courses and materials.

If a man wants to find a wife, he doesn't go to a bar to find one. He goes to a bar to find a party girl for a night or a few weeks, IF, he wants a wife (a seldom find especially among a travelling foreigner) he will go to church.

Few western men even believe in marriage any more due to the near fraud it has become legally in most nations.

IF, you only look in the right places, you will find out there some that would still give their lives for it.

sorry for being so long winded today.

Comment by B Thomas on August 17, 2012 at 10:41am

Chinese men do this to foreginers as well at times, when I go to the countryside on business I am nervous. As a non drinker, (drink seldom, few, and never get drunk) its tough as you often get 5 or 6 or ten to 1'ed as each of the group wants to have a bottoms up with you and 4 drinks will put my healthy body on my face. You want to drink some to show some friendliness as its such a part of life for many of these people, but you can feel a lot of pressure when 6 or 7 or 8 keep handing you drinks and all are pressuring you constantly to drink all at the same time even.

I know many good, decent, honorable Chinese men, all are single, and don't seem to be able to find a Chinese wife, I think they are good looking, well mannered, but none are rich. I also know good Chinese women. I know good western men, and I know a few good western women. The good westerners are all church go-ers. If not, they are the sleep around, sleaze it up, party and womanize (they are their own God) kind of people. It's curious to me why women would ever complain they can not find a decent man when they are not looking for one.

It seems a bit rediculous beyond eye opening for a woman to "seemingly" (I mean come on, lets not be stupid here) be out looking for a guy who will treat her with respect in bars, at parties, as she schemes him for free dinners and meals etc, or asking her friends for rich hit ups etc. lets face it, if your one of these people, you would not exactly be a good match for a "good guy" anyway. You know exactly what you are getting where you go and with the lifestyle you lead, so stop complaining, what a joke. You keep going back because you get high on that kind of attention.

Women looking for romance seldom if never, are romantic themselves. I might broaden that claim to all of women actually, if I might be so dangerous to self to say so. (putting target on back)

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